kidney failure nu vet plus ; renal support for canine ;

Question
QUESTION: i will call and order the nuvet powder or wafers in the morning.

are you saying that the cranberry powder you are suggesting is the same as the renal support [the two main ingredients epa and dha]. initially, i believe you said i could get the cranberry in a health food store. are you saying the product you are recommending is better.

sorry for all the queries, but i want to know exactly what will help her beginning-to-fail kidneys!!!

thank you

ANSWER: We have had great luck with the one I mentioned from Revival Animal web site:
If you were happy with the other Renal support, yours was a good brand, you can go back to that too.
Up to you ...
The NuVET also helps with renal support but with different ingredients.

Talk to you soon ....
You can contact me weekly by my private e-mail:
mtnmom@gci.net


Marie Peppers LPN MA

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QUESTION: hi,

i know you are tired of hearing from me, but i wanted three i hope quick clarifications.

i ordered the nuvet today...they said to use 1 tsp. you said 1/2 i am going with the 1/2 that you said. correct???

the cranberry powder you recommended looked good and i was ready to order it, but they want $9.oo for shipping and handling. in your opinion, is this better than the one that i could get in a store?? if so, i will order it asap.

last question [famous last words]  would you mind explaining the rationale behind grain free treats? is it detrimental to the kidneys??? just trying to learn and i do appreciated the education.

ANSWER: Hi - Glad you ordered the NuVET - yes, you are correct about the 1/2 teaspoon or 1/2 wafer per day for your dog.  Other dogs, of your pet's size, would take more than 1/2 teaspoon per day.

The gals at NuVET are not informed on the Phosphorous levels needed with kidney/ renal clients.
The gals were just giving you the dosage that a Normal dog without kidney failure should be taking each day.  They don't have the medical background on this subject.

I will educate the office gals on the process of NuVET and home-cooking for renal and liver clients.  Sorry, they gave you the wrong info...That is why I am here.
Again, they did not know about the requirements for renal dogs or cats.

Cranberry - WOW - I don't think I have every paid more than 6.50 for shipping thru Revival Animal health...  9.00 sounds high... Give them a call and ask why it is so high.
I get 3-5 pound of products for 6.50 to 9.00
I don't think the cranberry product is that large?

As for grains -  Dogs with any medical problems should eat as little grain as possible.
Many grains just add more stress on the body to digest.

I like the Innova EVO grain free treats ( small bites - don't get the large ones)
Also, the SoJo folks make a nice grain free treat -
see here : 2 kinds....

http://www.sojos.com/index.aspx?affiliate=petnurse



Start cooking - YOU can write to me daily if you have questions...
I am her to help!
I don't mind.

Marie Peppers LPN MA
Ask the Pet Nurse



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QUESTION: hi marie,

thank you for writing me back so quickly
i promise not to bother you again so soon, but i forgot to ask you something...the reason i spelled out the food i used to feed is because this new diet is alot less food, and i wondered if that mattered.

also, i have been feeding the omega 3s for a few months now. it is also the same time when i introduced the dairy [cottage cheese, yogurt and cheese] and tofu.  and coincidentally [or not], it is also when the dry patches of skin started. but the point i am making is that the omega 3 do not seem to have helped with the skin problem unfortunately

why, oh why, marie, would i be so lucky to have the blood levels drop if i am only changing the food by cooking and giving smaller portions...do you really believe that will help the blood levels and the alleged early stages of kidney failure? [along with the miracle nuvet?]

one last thing i forgot to mention, that you may find interesting....the reason i first went to the vet was because i noticed the increased water intake.[at which point he diagnosed early kidney failure] lately, even though it is hot, my baby is not drinking extra...in fact, my baby is not drinking ANY water [except what is in each of the 3 little meals] is that a good sign or a bad sign???

p.s. i tried to write you back at your email, but it failed. is that because i am only allowed to write you once a week?  

Answer
Hi- No problem.... I believe you were feeding some meats that are not appropriate for a pet with kidney troubles or UTIs.    I recall there were something like the lima beans, which are not good to continue for a kideny diet.

I approve all the following to feed in this diet for Kidney Disease dogs:
( no more raw bones for a snack)

( Glad you ordered the NuVET)

Please do start on the NuVET powder supplement as it balances out home cooking...
NuVET info here:
http://www.nuvet.com/81098
YOU are looking for the powder of nuvet plus:  ( don't worry about veggies because you will be giving the NuVet supplement)  (minimal veggies are fine)
( I did note what you can give "x-tra" per day to fill up your baby:)

white rice - Not the instant ...that is processed

potato, boiled with skin

rice, long-grain, cooked

No beens ***( lima and such ) too much Phos

GREEN beens are fine and low in Phos  **( YOU can feed this as a snack too.... X-tra is fine)

Broccoli is fine  *** you can give a little x-tra in one meal per day

Cabbage is good

Carrotts are fine, too   *** you can give some carrotts as a snack or with meals ( x-tra is fine)

sweet potato baked ( not mashed )  plain baked

Alway mush up the veggies - or Grate them - Hard to digest in whole form.

Feed 2 - 3 very small meals per day -  small means about  1/2 cup per meal.

Just start out and see how you do ..
**** If he is very hungry add a little more food to each meal.
~~~~~~~ ( No problem adding a little to each meal - just see how he does...)~~~~~~~~~

Treats -
Only Grain free :  ( grain free dog biscuts)
Anything in moderation that is a grain free treat from a quality company.


Did you see the SoJo dog food grain free TREATS -  
They are small so he could have 4-6 per day...
As long as they are grain free.
SEE SoJO here:
http://www.sojos.com/index.aspx?affiliate=petnurse


Cranberry - why don't you get the one I have had great luck with - thru Revival Animal Health:
I can only approve products that have worked for my clients..
If you don't have the link - I can send it again.

Make sure you add more water into his foods - if possible -
He should be drinking some from his water dish.  Glad the increased water intake has subsided.
You do want some water intake... Try an ice cube in the water - just 1 to make it fresh and cold.

The blood level should drop if you follow everything and keep him infection free...  They tend to get Urinary infections and stones.  
So- keep on adding some moisture to all meals.
You need to PLAY with the feeding amounts - a little more at each meal of meat and veggies is fine.

Also, you are not going to give anything with grain-  As a treat it will be grain-free treats or a carrott.
Innova EVO - Wellness Core - and the SoJos make some nice grain free treats.


Keep me posted - My e-mail should work fine...
mtnmom@gci.net

Marie Peppers LPN MA