Lhasa Apso trained, but still occasionally soiling in the house

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I neglected to mention that when Tashi soils we let her know we have found it.  We do scold her, but she punishes herself by going to her bed.  She has a separate bed from her crate and every time she is in trouble she goes to the bed-even before we begin scolding.  She definitely knows what she has done is wrong.  I don't know of any other dogs that put themselves in time out.  The bed is in the kitchen where she can still see us.  Is this sufficient, or would it be better to put her in a small dark bathroom with no toys?
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I have a 13 month old purebred Lhasa Apso female I have had since she was 9 weeks old. She was spade 6 months ago. I crate trained her and thought I did all of the right things.  I trained her to go outside in a certain spot in our yard and she does very well. She seems to be on a schedule for defecating once in the a.m. & once in the p.m.. She "tells" us she has to go-she will cry or bark at us so we take her.  It sounds great, but the problem is no matter how often she is taken out, I find piles & pee even after she has been out for long periods of time.  She is totally an indoors dog and this doesn't happen every day.  We are buying a brand new home just built and will be moving within the next month.  My question is, what can I do to stop this problem before it starts in the new home?  Is there a product I can spray?  She does very well when left alone in the house for hours and her crate is open for her use.  Sometimes she sleeps in it, but sleeps on our bed all night.  This is not happening at night, it is happening during the day and I am home.  She's very sly and I never know that she's done it...
She's been trained to sit, lie down, stay, etc... and is very smart.  She'd be the ultimate dog if I could stop this before it begins in the new home.  HELP!!!

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Hi Kim;
This sounds like she is maybe trying to get attention.
They will do sneaky things to get attention, just like little kids will.

I have tried the bitter apple spray etc. Never found a thing that keeps them off anything.
She is probably still smelling where she has been before.
You can shampoo, give it the sniff test afterward and not be able to smell a thing, but she can still smell it.
I use Simple Solution for accidents.
I foster for a couple of animal rescues, so I have some here quite often that are not house broken and I have to teach them before they can be adopted out.
When you find a place she has gone in the house. Take her to it, point to it and shame her terribly. "Bad Girl!!!, you know better than that, I am ashamed of you!!!"
That kind of scolding.
When she goes outside, make a big fuss, praising her like she is the smartest dog there ever was.
I use time out fr punishment.
After You have scolded her a couple of times, chew her little behind out good, and tell her she is a bad girl and has to go to time out.
Then close her up in a small bathroom, laundry room, etc, where she will have nothing to play with, and will just have to sit there for 30 minutes or so, thinking about her crimes.
DON'T use her crate for time out!!!
You just scold her like you are soooo disappointed, and so ahocked that she would do such a thing.
Then use the Simple solution to shampoo to spot.
I have seen ads on TV about a product called, I think, Zero Odor.
I think there is a website for it.
I haven't tried it, but I know the bitter apple and such doesn't work worth a hoot.
Mine actually liked the bitter apple off where I sprayed it.LOl
If she is eating or drinking after she comes in, that may be why she is having to go.
But I really suspect she is trying to see what she can get away with.
I have a little Lhasa, and he is 8 years old, and STILL tries to get away with stuff.LOl
Charlotte

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Oh sahe's GOOD!
Either she is really good at the con game, or she has a medical problem that makes her lose control.
Have her checked to make sure it is not a medical problem, just to be on the safe side, and if it is not, then she is pulling a guilt trip on you.
If she is contrite and punishes herself first, you won't put her where she can't see you.
She is taking the time out place of her choice. LOl
P-r-ety smart lil  chick.LOL
I wouldn't put her in a dark room, but a small room, with no toys.
I surely hope it isn't a medical problem.
If it isn't, rthen I am afraid you are suffering from being under the control of a little maniopulator.
She is training you right.LOl
My youngest son would do that. When he did something he knew he would be in trouble for, he would put himself on punishment.
He would fess up and say, "I know it was bad, so I am not going to watch TV for a week to punish myself".
Then he would look shocked when I would say, "Well, honey, I don't want you to punish yourself that much. I will just take ( and name one of his toys that he played with all the time) away for a week".
That lil con artist had to get up early in the morning to out con me.LOL
He never watched TV anyway. But he couldn't STAND to have his GI Joe dolls and gear put away for a week.
I have said it before, and I will say it again,.
There is just not very much difference in raising two legged kids and four legged kids.
It is a blast raising both kinds.
Charlotte