Specific amounts of nutrients.

Question
Hi I am getting an 11 week old standard poodle that will grow to be 24-25in tall. I don't know if you know the breed they are tall and skinny looking(low muscle mass). And he is coming to me on a raw diet. The breeder has given me the ingredients and amounts but I am not sure if this diet is nutritionally balanced. I have been using the site nutritiondata.com to analyze the mixture and then compare it to the AAFCO standards but the percentages have been messing me up. So now I want to find out how much of each nutrient is needed per kg a day. and perhaps how many g per day the puppy would eat. I have tried looking it up and for calcium specifically it ranges for 120mg/kg to 565mg/kg from different sources. I have already been recommended to feed a varied diet with bones and it will even over time. But I just cannot do this. I need to make a diet fed just like regular dog food but raw and with no bones. I plan to switch to blue buffalo puppy food as fast as his digestive system will let me, and then perhaps switch both my dogs to raw in the future if money allows.

So, what are the specific needs in g/mg of different nutrients including vitamins minerals protein fat and carbs per kg or even lb would be better? I can find the specific foods that will make the mixture.

And is it safe to feed kibble on a regular basis while giving moderate raw treats like a big meaty bone once a week?

If you don't know this info can you point me in the right direction? Thank you!

Answer
I AM GOING TO RESPOND TO IN ALL CAPS SO YOU CAN SEE MY RESPONSES IN YOUR LETTER. IT'S THE BEST I CAN DO SINCE I CAN'T USE COLORED FONTS HERE...ARRRRGH.

Hi I am getting an 11 week old standard poodle that will grow to be 24-25in tall. I don't know if you know the breed they are tall and skinny looking(low muscle mass).(YES, OF COURSE, I KNOW THE BREED. I USED TO BREED MINIATURES AND NOW I HAVE TWO FRIENDS WITH STANDARDS.)

And he is coming to me on a raw diet.(THIS IS TRULY GREAT THAT THE BREEDER STARTED HIM ON THIS)

The breeder has given me the ingredients and amounts but I am not sure if this diet is nutritionally balanced.(WHEN DOGS WERE IN THE WILD THIS WAS A PERFECTLY BALANCED MEAL BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ALTHOUGH THIS DIET IS HEAD AND SHOULDER'S ABOVE ANY COMMERCIAL DIET. COMMERCIAL DIETS, ALL OF THEM, NO MATTER HOW 'UPSCALE' ARE ALMOST ALL SYNTHETICS INCLUDING THE INGREDIENT'S THAT ALLOW THEM TO SAY IT IS 'BALANCED'. THESE ARE AWFUL AND NOT EVEN CLOSE TO NATURAL--INGREDIENTS THAT ARE LABORATORY MANUFACTURED COMPARED TO REAL FOOD INGREDIENTS).

I have been using the site nutritiondata.com to analyze the mixture and then compare it to the AAFCO standards but the percentages have been messing me up. So now I want to find out how much of each nutrient is needed per kg a day. and perhaps how many g per day the puppy would eat. I have tried looking it up and for calcium specifically it ranges for 120mg/kg to 565mg/kg from different sources.(YOU ARE GETTING VERY SPECIFIC HERE AND AT THIS POINT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD RISK DOING MYSELF. RAW IS GREAT IF YOU LEARN THE PROPER NUTRIENTS, REAL FOOD NUTRIENTS AND VITAMINS TO ADD. I DON'T FEED MY THREE RAW BUT I DO SUPPLEMENT THEIR FOOD WITH THE MOST NATURAL SUPPLEMENTS ON THE PLANET. I DO NOT PURCHASE THEM, EXCEPT FOR DDS PLUS PROBIOTIC, IN A STORE BUT FROM A COMPANY OUT WEST. SINCE I KNEW I HAD TO SUPPLEMENT ANYWAY, MY FRIEND GAVE ME THE NAME OF THIS WONDERFUL WOMAN WHO IS THE CEO OF THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY AND WHO IS A MASTER AT DIETS, PARTICULARLY RAW. IF YOU WILL WRITE TO ME AT MY EMAIL ADDRESS I WILL SEND YOU THE INFORMATION. FOR ME, I FIGURED I HAD PURCHASE SUPPLEMENTS ANYWAY AND IT WAS GOING TO COST ME NO MATTER WHICH WAY I SLICED IT, SO I LISTENED TO DONIA AND I CREDIT HER WITH SAVING MY LITTLE YORKIE'S LIFE. WRITE TO ME AT:
DazzlinDaawg@aol.com
AND I WILL PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE MASTER/MISTRESS OF RAW DIETS. SHE DOES NOT CHARGE BECAUSE SHE ADORES DOGS. I AND MY FRIENDS HAVE KNOWN HER FOR YEARS AND YOU WILL LOVE HER IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO THIS ROUTE.


I have already been recommended to feed a varied diet with bones and it will even over time. But I just cannot do this. I need to make a diet fed just like regular dog food but raw and with no bones. I plan to switch to blue buffalo puppy food as fast as his digestive system will let me, and then perhaps switch both my dogs to raw in the future if money allows.(THIS BOTHERS ME. WHY WOULD YOU TAKE A DOG OFF SOMETHING PURE AND NATURAL AND PUT THEM ONTO SOMETHING SYNTHETIC. YOU ARE ALREADY AHEAD OF THE GAME WITH THE BREEDER INTRODUCING RAW. I DON'T FEED MY DOGS ANYTHING COMMERCIAL ANYMORE--NO MATTER WHAT THE CAN, PACKAGE OR ADVERTISING SAYS. COMMERICAL FOODS ARE LIKE CONSTANTLY FEEDING YOUR DOGS TWINKIES...ALL OF THEM, NO MATTER WHAT THE PACKAGING SAYS.

So, what are the specific needs in g/mg of different nutrients including vitamins minerals protein fat and carbs per kg or even lb would be better? I can find the specific foods that will make the mixture. (THIS IS WHERE DONIA COMES IN. SHE WILL HELP YOU BIG TIME AND BECAUSE YOU ARE SO MOTIVATED AND INTERESTED IN CARING FOR YOUR NEW DOG SO HOLISTICALLY, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONTACT HER. i WILL INTRODUCE YOU TO HER AND SHE WILL THEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE. WRITE TO ME AT; DazzlingDaawg@aol.com AND I WILL DEFINTELY SEND YOU HER INFO. YOU WILL LOVE THIS WOMAN..SHE IS TOTALLY AWESOME WHEN IT COMES TO FEEDING AND SUPPLEMENTING OUR DOGS DIETS.

And is it safe to feed kibble on a regular basis while giving moderate raw treats like a big meaty bone once a week?(KIBBLE??? NEVER, NEVER, NEVER kIBBLE IS ROT GUT, DRIED, NO ENZYMES AT ALL AND SOMETIMES EVEN DANGEROUS. IT EXPANDS IN THEIR BELLIES AND WELL, I WON'T GO NEAR THE STUFF. IT SITS IN THOSE BAGS FOREVER SO THEY ARE LOADED WITH PRESERVATIVES ETC. AND YOU DO NOT WANT THIS. THIS INCLUDES ALL THOSE HORRIBLE TREATS THEY SELL FOR DOGS. OF COURSE, OUR DOGS LOVE THEM BECAUSE THEY ADD STUFF TO MAKE THEM LOVE THEM. WHAT WOULD A KID CHOOSE IF YOU PUT IT IN FRONT OF HIM? BROCCOLI OR CANDY?? SAME DEAL HERE.

If you don't know this info can you point me in the right direction? Thank you!
I DEFINTITELY WILL POINT YOU IN A MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE DIRECTION SINCE I AM  NOT A TRUE EXPERT IN THE AREA YOU NEED HELP. WRITE TO ME PRIVATELY AND YOU WILL BE ON YOUR WAY. IDENTIFY YOURSELF IN THE SUBJECT LINE PLEASE SO I DON'T DELETE YOUR MAIL. tHANKS, SUSAN BEHLMAR

You are most welcome for any help I was able to give. Thanks much for the nice evaluation too.
Sue
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