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Vaccinations for GSD pup

19 17:21:19

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QUESTION: Our 13 week old GSD pup had her first 2 vaccinations at 8 weeks and 11 weeks of age by her breeder w/ Fort Dodge Duramune DA2PP.  She told us that after the next vaccination at 14 weeks we would be able to take her out for walks and puppy classes.  Here's the problem.  I've called 4+ veterinarian offices who disagree.  They say that she needs 2 more vaccininations before she can go out, at 14 weeks and then at 16 weeks along with the rabies vaccine.  I check with the breeder and she said that with the Duramune it is enough to get 3 doses only as long as the 3rd one is after 12 weeks.  So, I found a place that has Galaxy DA2PPV that is also a combo vaccine.  I'm wondering if I should just go along w/ the vets and do the 2 more doses of their vaccines or get one does of the Galaxy vaccine and GET THE HECK OUT OF OUR BACKYARD!!  Sorry...anxious to get this pup OUT.  (:

ANSWER: You have already lost an irretrievable opportunity for early socialization.  The period between 6-12 weeks is a dangerous time.  One sniff where a sick dog relieved itself in the last 6 months can bring on parvo or another life threatening disease.  Fail to expose it to strangers, including men, women, children, noise, etc. and you could end up with a misfit you can't take out in public.  They also need continuing contact with other dogs, but it must be limited to ones you know are getting good care.

http://www.avma.org/animal_health/brochures/canine_parvo/parvo_brochure.asp explains how vaccinations work better than I can.  Perhaps the Fort Dodge stuff is better.  I understand there are newer vaccines that do give protection earlier.  

You need to get that dog out now.  The breeder had no business still having the puppies at 11 weeks.  There is an huge body of studies that show that after 12-16 weeks, puppies lose much of their ability to accept new things.  Far more dogs are put to sleep for behavior problems than die of parvo and other diseases.  

Yes, there are risks, but you must get the dog out now.  The trick is to avoid places where there are dogs not known to be healthy and up to date on their shots.  Go to places with people and heavy traffic with few dogs, down town or even outside a mall.  Keep her on the pavement.  Most dogs won't eliminate on pavement except near something to mark.  Avoid such places.  

As your breeder if she saw to it that the puppies met the 100 people before they were 12 weeks old as Ian Dunbar suggests.  See http://www.apdt.com/petowners/articles/docs/RKAndersonLetter.pdf  http://www.apdt.com/veterinary/assets/pdf/Haug_JF05.pdf

I have zero confidence in your breeder or the vets you have talked to.  There is no excuse for ignoring scientific studies going back to perhaps before they were born.  I would pay less attention to the shots the vet wants to give and select one advising careful socialization.  Your puppy should be big enough now that even if it does pick up parvo or something, with prompt treatment, it should survive.  I am taking my 4 month old Lab to Petsmart tomorrow.  I will be crossing my fingers.

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QUESTION: Actually, in our breeder's defense, we had the puppy at 8 weeks and I just took her back to the breeder to get her shot at 11 weeks because I was in the neighborhood.  But yes, so far she has only been exposed to my kids and all their friends and neighbors and I have also carried her (as far as I can) and let a bunch of people pet her.  She has not played w/ any dogs since she was with her litter at 8 weeks.  I do agree with you about the importance of socialization, which is why I have exposed her to as many people as possible.  I am taking her and signing her up for a puppy class at Petsmart asap.  Just a quick question tho, how do you take your puppy for a walk and keep her on the pavement?  What if she has to go potty?

Answer
I didn't understand parts of your question.  

Young puppies will eliminate when they have to, pavement or grass.  Also, grass in places where there aren't many dogs may be safe.  

You always need to clean up stools away from home.  The easiest way if they are well formed is to slip a plastic bag over your hand and pick them up.  Then turn the bag inside out and tie it.  I also carry cardboard to deal with the occasional soft one.