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Question
Hi!  I need some cichlid help, so I thought I'd go straight to the expert!  I have 2 questions for you:

1.  My friend's cichlids had babies back in October, and she didn't want to keep them, so she offered some to me.  She said they are "Jelly Bean Cichlids," and the males are a light, sort of creamy white and about 4-5 inches in length, while the females are the same white, but with orange on the sides of their bellies, and have some orange sort of going into their fins.  They're about 2.5 inches, I'd say.  

These cichlids don't look exactly like the ones on your website.  They don't have the parrot-shaped mouth.  To me (keep in mind I'm a novice when it comes to fish), they appear to have a normal mouth.  

What are these fish?  Are they Jelly Bean Cichlids or some sort of strange off-shoot of another breed?  My friend is a fish enthusiast and knows a lot about the various fish and reptile species, and says that she got these fish from a specialty store near her home.  Did the store just trick her, or are these legitimately cichlid fish?

2.  My cichlids are fairly aggressive, as are their parents.  They will VICIOUSLY defend their various hiding places in the tank, and are prone to biting the other fish I've put in with them.  A platy survived for a few weeks, before dying, a golden dojo loach I've had for about five months is doing splendidly, and is, in fact, the only other type of fish in the cichlid tank.  A small redish/orange fish (I call him the little red guy) survived for about 4.5 months with the cichlids (I bought him at the same time as the loach), but I moved him to a different tank, so he's no  longer in danger.

Am I just nuts to put more fish in the tank with the cichlids?  Should I just leave them with the loach and let them be, or could I possibly put more fish in with them?  They're currently in a 29 gallon tank, and I believe that my 3 cichlids are all females (they all have the tell-tale orange).  Their parents are about a year and a half now, and don't seem to be getting much bigger than they were when I first got the cichlids, so we're assuming that they're full grown.  Mine are about 8 months, so they're probably pretty close (right?) to being full grown.  The loach is about.... 3-4 inches long, and hasn't appeared to grow much.  I know that they can become quite large, so I'm prepared to move him to a bigger tank if he does get that big.  Anyway, back to my point.  I'd like to put more fish in the tank (preferably something of color... just to brighten it up), so do you have any suggestions of what might get along well with these cichlids?  I know that my friend has her male cichlids (she separated them from the females to prevent more breeding, I believe there are 3 of them)  in a large (75 gallon) tank with some tinfoil barbs, a catfish of some sort, 2 angelfish, and a red-tailed black shark.  There might be more in that tank, I don't know exactly.  I'm not in the position to buy a 75 gallon tank at the moment, and I don't really have space for one at any rate.

I was thinking of getting some angelfish, what do you think?  If I do, would it be smart to house them with the little red guy and a molly (currently in a 10 gallon) or some bloodfin tetras until they grew large enough to handle the cichlids, or is that just illogical?  Could I ever put another type of cichlid (like convicts, for example) in with the Jelly Beans?  Could they go with some bloodfin tetras (I like the idea of fish that are hard to kill)?  The cichlids seem to stay on the bottom mostly, maybe into the middle level a little bit.  Could I put some top-swimmers in the tank, or would the cichlids not like it?

Answer
Hi Mikayla,
 Is there any chance you could send a photo of your fish?  Send it to the email address below.  That will help me determine what it is that you actually have.  

  I would not add more fish to the 29 gallon tank and a 10 gallon tank is definitely too small for angelfish, so don't do that.

-- Ron
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